mind altering?

[jeanne]

I can only speak for alcohol here, and I must say a drink or two doesn't seem to hurt anything. In fact, it tends to wipe out the annoying ADD litany of useless thoughts in my head and lets me go right to the, erm, more interesting ones...

Speaking as an alcoholic who's been sober for several years and has never engaged in any D/s activities while under the influence, let me say...

...it isn't necessary. Not one bit. If alcohol (or drugs) is what removes someone's inhibitions and allows them to enjoy themselves more fully, perhaps an examination of why that is so would be helpful. Believe me, D/s with an always clear head rocks. And what a charge for the Dom to know that His sober, rational submissive can be reduced to a babbling, begging, cumming, laughing, out-of-her-head sex toy through only His own efforts and influence.

If you're doing edgy stuff, diminished capacity can be dangerous.

The top can make a mistake. The bottom can fail to realize they've been physically injured.

I'd stay away from it.

Amen.

[DowntownAmber]

Speaking as an alcoholic who's been sober for several years and has never engaged in any D/s activities while under the influence, let me say...

...it isn't necessary. Not one bit. If alcohol (or drugs) is what removes someone's inhibitions and allows them to enjoy themselves more fully, perhaps an examination of why that is so would be helpful. Believe me, D/s with an always clear head rocks. And what a charge for the Dom to know that His sober, rational submissive can be reduced to a babbling, begging, cumming, laughing, out-of-her-head sex toy through only His own efforts and influence.

Necessary? No. You're right there. And if alcohol or another drug is the only way you can relax into BDSM activities? Yeah, that's a problem. Falling down drunkenness? Also, not attractive.

However, I'm still not convinced a couple of drinks is even remotely a problem.

It doesn't make BDSM any better or any worse, it's just a slightly different headspace for it.

[jeanne]

Necessary? No. You're right there. And if alcohol or another drug is the only way you can relax into BDSM activities? Yeah, that's a problem. Falling down drunkenness? Also, not attractive.

However, I'm still not convinced a couple of drinks is even remotely a problem.

It doesn't make BDSM any better or any worse, it's just a slightly different headspace for it.

I suppose, since I don't drink or anything else, that I don't understand the concept of 'different headspaces'. I only have one as a submissive...and find the delight and happiness lies in the process of falling further and further into it as well as the varying degrees of it.

Ah well...everyone's different, that's for sure!