BDSM And Feminism: Intertwined? How So?

[icey]

Except that women are still in the majority at the bottom end of the world of work, doing the shit jobs that they can't get men to do for the price, and in a minority in management that gets smaller the higher you go. .

strangely enough in my family its the women with one exception that are at the higher end of the management heirachy.

Ah, these young folks....

i wish! lol but what does age have to do with anything?

in those days hard core feminists didn't have sex with men anyhow

what days were these? i had many many ''hard core'' feminist friends some of the denim dungaree doc martins 'type' and others way more butch and some very feminine, from all walks of life they were lesbian bi and straight.
were all involved in different lifestyles i knew them from when i used to go to a very well known feminist bar but none of them i ever met other than the lesbians obviously had no problem sleeping with men! and weirdly none of them were man haters lol nor did they hate or criticise non feminists!

whether it was politically OK for lesbians to do BDSM, or whether they were "internalising patriarchy" and should be re-educated to understand that violence and dominance were male vices shunned by properly empowered women.

lol id have loved to hear those conversations in the gay bars i used to frequent wow with all the old leather boys and girls (yup i said girls!) around and feminists! they wouldnt have lasted two minutes! although i am talking about the 80's and 90's what with me being so young and all

There were a few holdouts still fighting the Lesbian SM Wars when I got involved in the '90s, so I know people weren't making this stuff up.

in the early 90's practically everyone in the gay bars i ever met were D/s orientated! or had some form of interest in bdsm.
i guess coming from different eras...(im guessing you're older than me by your young folks comment?...im 38 btw) and different locations can make a huge difference to our experiences and world views.