"In ancient Attica it is said there was a giant, Procrustes. He would seize upon travelers and tie them upon an iron bed. If the traveler was too short for the bed, he would disjoint and break their bodies until they fitted it; if they were too long for the bed, he would cut their feet from them, until they, again, fitted the bed. Perhaps the bed of Procrustes is the truth and men must be broken or cut to pieces that they may fit it. On the other hand, clearly there is an alternative, although Procrustes seemed not to have heard of it. The bed could be made to fit the guest. Is the bed to conform to the guest, or the guest to conform to the bed. From my own point of view, I would prefer a bed which considered the nature of human beings. I would make the human being the measure by which I judged the value of the beds. I see little of profit in making the bed the measure of the human being, and requiring that we remake, if by torture and mutilation, the human being until it fits the bed. Besides, we cannot remake the human being to fit the bed, truly. We do not make new human beings or better human beings by this method. All we make by that method is broken or mutilated human beings."
Rogue of Gor - Page 107


<<<is wondering who would compare the Gor series to the bible and why they would, unless they are trying to say that we Goreans are somehow religious?

As for what the books were ment for:

Norman allready expressed his views on the phenomenon that developed in response to his books, i took the liberty of posting his letter earlier in the thread. If you would like I can repost it again for clarity's sake?

I seriously doubt you personally know what the author of any work is truely thinking when they write it unless they themselves tell you. Those who practice literaly analyasis may like to think they know , but infering from a text is fraught with the cold fact that the analyist cannot read the authors mind and many authors indeed dont just sit down and write thier little heart literally out; despite what overly romantic english teachers may wish to think.

I believe most people take what philosophy and moral ideals from where they find them as opposed to only seeking ethical guildence from the narrow confines of those "books"that are labeled or defined by some as being for that purpose.

Respectfully made or not: To say one should only get thier knowledge from "approved" (by who you?) scources is rather indicative of a feeble attempt at censorship or a not so vieled jibe at the people who have chosen to find knowledge where they will as opposed to where others say they should. Makes me think about the Council of Nicene and how a third of the different Christian sects at the time were told: "belive it this way or else."

I understand this may not have been your intention Adriana though I do sence a certian hostility in the force (best yoda voice i could muster)

Saying I am Gorean is no different than my saying I am a Epicurian, or a Stoic, or a Machialvellian, or a Trekker (the hardcore ones hate the term trekkie btw)or a Trancendentalist (which i am btw also a trancendentalist as well as a Nietchian),So when I say I am a Gorean I am a Gorean and nothing you try to say otherwise can take that from me no matter how much you may wish it too..

Plato's Republic may not have phisically existed, but plenty of people believed in it's principles and still do.

In less of course it is your intention to take it out of context and imply that by saying that those calling themselves Goreans are saying its the same as being a Christian or a buddist? (smh) Which is it I wonder? If it is that way then i am in a quandary as my religion is Bahai, and my philosophy is composed from many scources, gor being the most relevant one to this discussion.

If that were the case I would be preaching about whorsehiping the dieities mentioned in the Gor books wouldnt I??? I mean wouldnt I be saying somthing about the PriestKings and how they will fix all our woes here on earth ? Spouting out on street corners how its Gor not God who is coming for the apocolypse? I would hope you were above such tactics.

The obvious reason I am talking about Gor instead of Star Wars or Star Trek (both of which expouse some also buetiful philosophies) is becuase they dont deal with D/s or M/s or bdsm the Gor does(well Return of the Jedi might arguably alude to bdsm perhaps with the Prinsess Leia slave girl scene lol).



As for the spaceship jibe its not even worth responding to seriously and goes to show what kind of discrimination Goreans have to put up with so in a way I should thanku for personifing it... as it gives me an oppertunity to show everyone of one type of peer pressure we put up with on a daily basis.


Gor has a following of vannila as well as bdsm practicioners that have adopted the principles expoused in the books for thier own use.

Where ever there be people who follow the virtue eithics expoused by Norman in the Gor books...

...then there be Goreans.


We are here, we exist and we are not going to disapear just becuase some people choose to discriminate against us or twist what we stand for into lies, or otherwise try to demonize or diminish our philosophy.