Humiliation and BDSM.

[Mastrovenice]

Great thread. I agree with Wyked. The line is where someone cannot eroticize humiliation and can only think of it in a more political/social sense.

What about pain though? This part of BDSM seems purely physical an not related to humiliation.

[thegirlwonder]

What about pain though? This part of BDSM seems purely physical an not related to humiliation.

Except if you're humiliated because you enjoy pain XD

[Pearlgem]

What about pain though? This part of BDSM seems purely physical and not related to humiliation.

Surely the administration of pain itself can be considered humiliating - an adult person inflicting this on another adult - especially in a discipline/punishment situation. It's not humiliating to be bent over a knee awaiting and getting a bare bottomed spanking?

But I agree when it's done purely for pleasure on both sides, it's more difficult to see it as humiliating.

After a while, what BDSMers do seems so 'normal'!

[gloombunny]

Surely the administration of pain itself can be considered humiliating - an adult person inflicting this on another adult - especially in a discipline/punishment situation. It's not humiliating to be bent over a knee awaiting and getting a bare bottomed spanking?

But a bare-bottomed spanking is generally seen as more humiliating than, say, being flogged on the upper back while still wearing pants. Doesn't that indicate that it's something other than the pain that's causing the humiliation? (In the case of bare-bottomed spankings, I'd say it has a lot to do with being treated like a child. Spankings are what we do to naughty children; flogging is more of an adult punishment and therefore less humiliating.)

Now... being powerless or overpowered can be very humiliating, and bondage and pain infliction definitely play into that. But I don't think that means the acts are inherently humiliating - to some people, the powerlessness aspect doesn't feel applicable because they know it's only happening by their consent, and they might even see the pain as a chance to show off how tough they are by taking it - turning what would be humiliating for some people into an source of pride, even.