Everyone makes mistakes...but not a Dom...?

[Ozme52]

Sorry... but in my opinion this is a ridiculous rant because you are citing a situation with insufficient information... letting everyone make a presumption that you were severly and unfairly punished.

So we are left to presume there was zero sexual tension in the act. There was no playfulness. There was no lesson learned, no contrition, and no forgiveness. Just some unworthy double standard?

Yes, if all that is true, time to move on. Because you set the presumption in your readers that you feel abused... Are you sure you're submissive? The same scenario(s) written slightly differently by other subs beget comments of how hot the scenes sound...

And I don't agree at all with your perspective of hypocrisy. My old man told me a hundred times how he hated the smoking habit... that the tobacco addiction was stronger than he was and I'd do well to avoid falling into the trap. Where you would have apparently rejected that advice, I took it to heart, especially knowing what he endured and overcame as an actual second class citizen in WWII Europe.

What I'm afraid of is being punished by a Dom who makes the same mistakes (or mistakes period) without being kept in check. Not that I want to discipline anybody. I'm strictly sub. But the discipline turns a little hollow when the enforcer turns out to be a hypocrite who is telling me not to curse ever but then curses a blue street in bed when he calls me a 'fucking whore' (for fun but still...).

If you really think this too is hypocritical... as opposed to bed play... (as clearly you have neglected to tell him it's a limit...) leave.

Go find a nice fluffy dom you can control.

[thir]

So we are left to presume there was zero sexual tension in the act. There was no playfulness. There was no lesson learned, no contrition, and no forgiveness. Just some unworthy double standard?

.. Are you sure you're submissive? The same scenario(s) written slightly differently by other subs beget comments of how hot the scenes sound...

I do not see what that proves. All subs are different, and we all have things that work for us, and things that for some individual reason or other doesn't.
Or do you have set ideas of what a sub is, since you see fit to question her on this?

If you really think this too is hypocritical... as opposed to bed play... (as clearly you have neglected to tell him it's a limit...) leave.

Go find a nice fluffy dom you can control.

I agree that this is a communication problem, as others have said. But often a person wants to discuss a certain issue before taking it further, which I think is a good idea and one of the things this place is good for.

Which IMO should be possible without running into comments as that last one you made.

[Ozme52]

I do not see what that proves. All subs are different, and we all have things that work for us, and things that for some individual reason or other doesn't.
Or do you have set ideas of what a sub is, since you see fit to question her on this?

Hardly, everyone is unique and should be treated so. So is every relationship unique.

I question her on this because it's a rant. Every dominant sets rules. Every sub wants them. (yes there are exceptions... but that's not the point)

Painting us as hypocrites is ridiculous. If she had said... "Oh, my dom doesn't let me cum but doesn't restrict himself too... He's such a hypocrite!" don't you think everyone would have laughed their asses off?

It's just too easy to generate this kind of "Oh woe is me" bandwagon that everyone gets to hop onto.

I agree that this is a communication problem, as others have said. But often a person wants to discuss a certain issue before taking it further, which I think is a good idea and one of the things this place is good for.

Which IMO should be possible without running into comments as that last one you made.

I would normally agree, except it wasn't a discussion... You go back, reread her escalating responses.

Reread mine. I said if it was indeed a cold and heartless punishment, then she is being abused and should end it... but that if every act on his part is an act of hypocrisy, then what exactly does she think dominance and submission is?