I agree to a point with craven. Mostly because of something I'm experiencing myself. I have a Dom friend who is great for bouncing ideas off of. As much as I don't see myself as experienced as a Dom I am very experienced in the lifestyle itself. I understand what he wants as an end result however I see him going about it in the wrong way.

He's very keen on the idea of me interacting with one of his subs and it's pretty intriguing so why not?

Well from talking to his sub I've actually gathered a lot more about him than months of talking to the guy. she is not some shinning example of submission mind you. she is very boring and is very much undescriptive in her answers when I ask her about anything. Sure it could be that she simple has no experience or that she also has no imagination (as i feel a sub should have as s/he should always be thinking). Either way I find myself filling in the blanks a lot and winning gentleman's bets about her nature against her own Dom.

I'm finding though more and more that she is at the very least eager to lose control and she wants discipline in some form.

I find this more common in women though. I think a female "rubbish sub" can be turned around pretty quickly paired with the right Dom. That her bad habits can be broken. Even the examples that ahava has given can be overcome by the right Dom.

I agree with Misschief when it comes to males. I would say about 1 in 5 males that i come in contact with simply want to rub one out. Luckily, they're easy to spot and I simply don't talk to them.

(i just noticed that i always refer to Dominants as Dom and never use Domme please excuse my male association issue)