Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
There are also scientists saying that the increase in Co2 is cuased by the increasing temperatures and that the true scource of any temperature increases has as yet to be identified; though my bet is on the relationship between the sun and our planets geo-thermal action.
Sorry, that's just wrong. The link between greenhouse gases and atmospheric warming is solid. In fact, there is little evidence that there is any link between the sun and geo-thermal action. Aside from electromagnetic radiation from the sun, only tidal effects are felt on Earth, and the moon has a larger effect than the sun. And while tidal effects cause friction, which causes heat, these factors are relatively constant and cannot be causing current global warming.

Outside of that, we have reams of data collected about what the climate did in the past on this planet. Its preserved quite nicely for those wishing to go find it, especially in fosseil records and geological substrates.
Exactly! And the data shows that the average global temperature and the average CO2 content of the atmosphere are rising at a higher rate than ever before.

Have we directly changed the overall atmospheric composition to date as a species on a significant level?
Yes, we have. Think smog. Think acid rain. Think nuclear fallout, from Alamogordo to Chernobyl.

I think science is still colating data, were as those with political agendas are using scare tactics to influence the general populace for their own advantage.
This is also true. Science will ALWAYS be collating data. That's what scientists do! That doesn't mean there isn't enough data now to define a trend. But political scare tactics are being used, as well as pressure on those who MAY have evidence which contradicts SOME of the science.

Funny how the politicians instead of crying foul to the scientists in question and holding them up to public scrutiny are instead crying foul on the whistler blower who uncovered their transgressions.
This was not a whistle-blower, this was a hacker. He illegally stole e-documents which did not belong to him. He should be arrested and prosecuted as a criminal. And the "transgressions" are a few phrases which have been taken out of context and blown up into a vast conspiracy. It's a tempest in a teapot.