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    In a socialist controlled country a person is not free to make their own choices. Nor are they free to choose the uses for the fruits of their labors.
    Others are making those decisions for them.

    As for the Patriot Act and the tea party, um it did not exist?


    Quote Originally Posted by Lion View Post
    Why does socialism = less rights again?

    Where were the Tea Party people when the PATRIOT act was being signed? I ask this because the understanding that I get is that Obama is signing away the rights of Americans. And in the last 10 years, I think the biggest threat to the American constitution was when security trumped freedoms.

    Duncan said that European countries are trending downwards. A lot of countries are, US is too. Canada is comparitively socialist, and our economy is not going down. Feel free to decide the path of your own country, but saying that socialist countries are going down in a sweeping statement is inaccurate and misleading.

    Btw, some people still think my responses are sarcastic. My questions are questions, and my comments are comments. I do not imply anything other then what I say. I am tired of people assuming I mean malice with what I say, or some sort of perverted, snarky response to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanONeil View Post
    In a socialist controlled country a person is not free to make their own choices. Nor are they free to choose the uses for the fruits of their labors.
    Others are making those decisions for them.

    As for the Patriot Act and the tea party, um it did not exist?
    Are you confusing socialism with communism? European countries are socialist, but citizens over there have rights that are found in US (free speech, press, assembly).

    Fruits of their labour? Again, residents of socialist countries do pay higher tax rates compared to US, (I can think of a few Scandinavian countries), but enjoy a higher standard of living then US. They also buy cars, houses, electronics, furniture, sex toys, etc, and the government isn't telling them which ones to buy. So again, are you confusing communists with socialism, cause it seems that you have them confused.

    My question regarding the PATRIOT act is where were most of these current Tea party activists when THEIR rights were beign eroded. My issue with these activist, and this whole movement is that it seems to be highly partisan. When there was a Republican in office, there was no huge protest when they signed a $700 billion dollar bailout. The country marched into a second war without so much of a plan in any regards (post war, financial aspect, etc), and 4 years after the fact, there was no Tea party movement, no outrage over the government's unplanned war. When the government expanded under Bush, again, there was no large protest on 'big government', or accusations that Bush is a socialist. Year after year, the country was running a deficit, but no protest about fiscal responsibility. Obama's in office, now people all of a sudden seem to care that there are bailouts, wars, deficits, and czars.

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