The problem here is that there is gun control and then there is GUN CONTROL.

Much of what Thorne had said in regard to training and the permitting process is a form of gun control. Too often "gun control" is understood to mean a limit on ownership. This is actually illegal in the US.
"Monday, June 28, 2010

Supreme Court rules Second Amendment applies to states
Hillary Stemple at 11:15 AM ET

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[JURIST] The US Supreme Court ... on Monday ruled [opinion, PDF] 5-4 in McDonald v. Chicago ... that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment makes the Second Amendment ... right to bear arms applicable to the states as well as the federal government. The case arose over a city of Chicago ordinance effectively banning the possession of handguns. ... Justice Samuel Alito, delivering the opinion of the court, cited the court's 2008 opinion in District of Columbia v. Heller ... and reversed and remanded the case for further proceedings, stating:

In Heller, we held that the Second Amendment protects the right to possess a handgun in the home for the purpose of self-defense. Unless considerations of stare decisis counsel otherwise, a provision of the Bill of Rights that protects a right that is fundamental from an American perspective applies equally to the Federal Government and the States. We therefore hold that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment incorporates the Second Amendment right recognized in Heller.
(http://jurist.org/paperchase/2010/06...-to-states.php)

Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
I only introduced gun control as an alternative to imposing capital punishment, den. I'll debate the merits of gun control with anyone till the come home, but that wasn't my purpose in the last message.