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    Quote Originally Posted by lucy View Post
    @denuseri:
    I don't want to have to carry a fucking gun to feel fucking safe, for fuck's sake!
    Besides: I'm glad we don't have "stand your ground" laws here, because I firmly believe that the government should have and should always retain the monopoly on violence. Everything else opens doors to anarchy, and we all know who loses first in anarchy. Might be different in the US, but around here I like to keep it that way.
    Then: It has to be said, but when it comes to domestic violence, women are not much better than men. In Switzerland, 40 % of victims of domestic violence are male. Taking into account that it's much harder for a man to go to the police and report that he's being violated by his partner than it is for a women it might well be that half of the offenders are female.

    @punish_her: If men go at each other because they drink too much and don't know what to do with their testosterone or just because they are gangsters, that's their problem and isn't really discrimination, because, you know, men can't discriminate other men because of their sex.
    If they go at me coz I'm a woman, that's my fucking problem and an altogether different matter.
    Also: I didn't say there is no discrimination. I just said that it's fully understandable that women might enjoy having a floor to themselves in a hotel.

    And puleeeze, just for once, leave me alone with US statistics. The world doesn't end at the coast of New Jersey and I'm certainly not going to look up any statistics of a country that's 4000 miles away, especially if the original topic of this thread isn't the US.
    'kay?
    BOOM point proven. when men get attacked it's because they were drunk, or they were too testosterone fueled or they must all be gang bangers, it's completely there fault. however, you should be allowed to do whatever you want and if you get attacked it's far worse than when I get attacked. [I] was at a bar last year, and I was attacked. Some guy thought I was trying to sleep with his girlfriend so he decided to take a pitcher and slam it into my face as hard as he could. Thankfully, it was plastic, so it just broke apart and left me with a huge bruise. If it had been glass, I'd be blind in one eye with a few dozen stitches. I suppose that's my fault right?
    but no, when a woman walks home by herself at 2 am, that's not her negligence putting herself in danger at all.
    that mindset is disgusting

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    I'm sorry you've been attacked. I got beaten down and mugged, too. At 9 pm on the campus. I don't call that discrimination, coz it could have happened to anyone. It's a question of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Punish_her View Post
    but no, when a woman walks home by herself at 2 am, that's not her negligence putting herself in danger at all.
    Yes. Unfortunately, apparently a woman can't walk home alone at two am. Because some testosterone-laden fuckwads make exactly that impossible. It shouldn't be negligence if she does and gets into troubles. That is exactly what I was talking about in my first post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Punish_her View Post
    that mindset is disgusting
    Yes, you are so right here: The mindset that a woman being assaulted/raped/whatever because she dared to walk home on her own at two am (something most men wouldn't think twice about) is negligent is indeed fucking disgusting. Very, very disgusting.

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