Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Russell View Post
I have found that subs set a lot of hard limits that are areas that they secretly want to go. I bet that I am not the only Dom that has had this experience.
No you probably aren't. Filling out the limits questionnaire knowing that no one would ever actually use it is a whole different animal than filling it out because you have been told to, for the purposes of your One's knowledge. It's a lot harder to be completely open and honest - and very tempting to set some items as hard limits because admitting that you want them or at least would be willing to do them if He did is just plain embarrassing.

Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Russell View Post
Now would I deliberately push a sub/slave to break a hard limit no never but would I test each one softly and subtle, damn right I will.
And that feels completely appropriate and right to me.

Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Russell View Post
Oh if she has a hard limit with a hard reason that it is a limit then no I would not go there at all.

Russell
Yes, that is very smart. I have one particular hard limit, that for very emotional and personal reasons, is absolute. But I am also very willing to explain that and believe I have the right to expect that limit to be left alone.

In total agreement with you,
jeanne