Quote Originally Posted by DowntownAmber View Post
Is is subtle, though I'm not sure it's a subtle "difference" so much as a slightly different way of saying the same thing? I agree wholeheartedly that giving pleasure is the most complete way to get pleasure. There is obviously (for a sub) great satisfaction in the doing, the serving of the Dom. Whether it be something sexual, or simply making Master dinner and bringing it to him and watching him enjoy it, I find deep fufilment in doing for him.

For this to be as satisfying as it can be, however, I feel that the both of us are responsible to be "attentive and attuned" to the other.

Thoughts? (I love the semantic back and forth, btw, as a relative newbie it forces me into considering all I think and say from completely new angles and perspectives.)
Well, that would be nearly my exact definition of semantics. Exactly the same thing but a different way of saying it... but all too many discussions can get hung up on the definitions of the words.

My semantic hang-up in this conversation would be that I insist on the perspective that the D/s relationship revolves around the needs of the Dom/me. That may be because I see the pendulum swung too far the other way in all too many online-only pairings.

I guess it depends whether you think words can only describe thoughts... or if you think they can perhaps drive thoughts.