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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    DowntownAmber - No, of course you can't. But shouldn't they have the option to decide? When did it become okay for one person in the relationship to dictate what the other "needs to know?"
    Come down from those ivory towers for a second. When I go to to the pub and ogle at the barmaids tits should I come back home and tell my woman what I did because I don't have the right to dictate what she "needs to know". Get real!
    That's not the same thing. If you want to start a thread about whether clandestine tit-ogling is kosher, then be my guest. I'm starting to figure out how things work around here- you just take the other guy's position, describe the worst possible implementation of it (one that no right thinking person would try), and then argue against that, instead of against his original point.

    So in this case, instead of talking about "needs to know" re: infidelity and affairs, we get the tits example. Not that I object to any mention of breasts.

    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    DowntownAmber - And a lie by deliberate omission is still a lie.
    There is a difference between omitting a key detail when one is being asked and simply not raising the topic in the first place.
    For the purposes of covering up an affair, there certainly isn't. Do you think it's any less of a betrayal if your spouse doesn't think to ask about it? This statement is just wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Did Clinton lie when he omitted to mention the fact that Monica had been going down on him? ... The Senate obviously didn't agree with your deliberate omission is still a lie theory else they would not have acquitted him of perjury.
    This is a bad argument.

    Whether it was a lie or not, I don't think anyone would dispute that Clinton's act was infidelity. Are you trying to use THIS case of all cases to prove your point? You couldn't have picked a worse example. Nobody out there is walking along saying to themselves: "Bill never cheated on Hilary, he just omitted the truth of all the blowjobs he was getting in the Oval Office."

    It doesn't matter if omission is technically a lie according to the Ye Olde Oxford Fuckinge Englishe Dictionary, or by any legal statute. There is no legislating affairs of the heart. If it's the same act, and if it hurts your partner the same way, it's still betrayal. Having been found out, is the plan to trot your high school english teacher over to your devastated spouse, and have him make the case that it wasn't a lie, but an omission? I'm sure that will be great solace to her while she's chucking your clothes all over the front lawn.

    Oh well- failing that, maybe you can get the Senate to convince her.

    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Rope monkey - Does anyone here believe you can explore one side of your sexuality online without it being an affront to the sexuality of your r/l partner?
    Mandy was kind enough to answer rope monkey's question but because she had the audacity to express a view other didn't agree with she is lynched by the righteous mob. Hardly the way to encourage a broad view of opinions is it, crucify anybody who dares to have a different view.
    I don't think that's a fair characterization of what happened here.

    - FS
    Last edited by IAmCanadian; 09-28-2008 at 10:45 AM.

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