Snuff

[Carpe Coma]

What are your views on this topic? How do you see snuff?

If this is a fetish of yours...what is it that you find erotic or sexually gratifying (because I honestly don't see it)? Is it a way to romanticize death?

I don't think it is a way to romanticize death for most. At least one other person in this thread has said that they saw it as the ultimate submission. I don't agree with that either, as I do think that there are fates worse than death. Instead, I see it as the ultimate objectification, the ultimate devaluation. The stripping away of what we generally consider the most basic human right.

Are there people turned on by it on both sides of the act? Absolutely. I have chatted with a few on the "snuff me" side. Their reasons varied, but they mostly centered around the idea of becoming nothing combined with the curious lack of a sense of self preservation.

Can someone consent to being "snuffed"? I can think of a few conditions where that could be the case and the person wouldn't automatically be considered insane, though they pretty much all revolve around the "snuffee" being terminally ill in some manner. The idea of consenting to death delves into some very murky ethical waters. At what point does someone need to be protected from themselves? You can't properly address this without having a bulletproof definition of insanity, which we currently lack. Instead we have the catch-all of when they seek harm upon themselves. Though by that definition, any masochist could be considered insane.

Is snuff just another word for suicide?

No. Suicide is either to escape, to gain control, or a case of temporary chemical imbalance. People that seek suicide by proxy (which is what snuff would be if it was another word for suicide) generally aren't that particular about how it happens. Just like people with rape fantasies, people with snuff fantasies tend to care about with whom and how it happens. People just seeking to die usually want it to happen relatively quickly and painlessly, while snuff fantasies tend to be prolonged affairs. Snuff fantasies almost always have what they feel to be a very strong sexual component, while suicide by proxy is just about getting someone else to do what they themselves cannot.

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At least one other person in this thread has said that they saw it as the ultimate submission. I don't agree with that either, as I do think that there are fates worse than death. Instead, I see it as the ultimate objectification, the ultimate devaluation. The stripping away of what we generally consider the most basic human right.

Are there people turned on by it on both sides of the act? Absolutely. I have chatted with a few on the "snuff me" side. Their reasons varied, but they mostly centered around the idea of becoming nothing combined with the curious lack of a sense of self preservation.

That's an interesting insight. I recall a story that appeared in the Library last year, in which a slave was elaborately bound, mummified (including provision for tube feeding and evacuation as well as the usual self-propelled dildoes) and finally coffined and buried, with gravestone and all. The fact that she would supposedly be kept alive but absolutely helpless in her coffin for some unspecified but long time was presented as part of the thrill - rather like a snuff fan's version of the old joke about wanting to enjoy your own funeral.

I suppose that explains why some people combine it with cannibal fantasies. Using someone as meat is another way of taking objectification to the limit.