Do people 'deserve' universal health care?

[Lion]

How are they "Hinting"?

If the student works in a field for the government that is required, they get free education. Otherwise they have to pay back the loan. Do private loans get forgiven for any reason? If not, I don't see anything wrong with this plan. If students are getting their loans, and some, if they go into a field that the government requires and fulfills their contract are debt free. Which sounds similar to the type of government assistance when it comes to military scholarships, where I believe you have to serve a minimum number of years, and in return, get a free undergrad education.

That being said, I'm trying to figure out what this has to do with healthcare. Going to look it up.

[steelish]

That being said, I'm trying to figure out what this has to do with healthcare. Going to look it up.

Here's a story on it.

[DuncanONeil]

The difference is that the only source of monies you will have in the future is the Government and they are, essentially, going to tell you what course of study you must pursue. This is no way comparable to the Military scholarship, which requires input from the member. When you leave service you choose your course of study. To be comparable it would be like the Army telling a soldier he has to use his funds to study metalurgy and take a job at Oshkosh after he leaves the service.

How are they "Hinting"?

If the student works in a field for the government that is required, they get free education. Otherwise they have to pay back the loan. Do private loans get forgiven for any reason? If not, I don't see anything wrong with this plan. If students are getting their loans, and some, if they go into a field that the government requires and fulfills their contract are debt free. Which sounds similar to the type of government assistance when it comes to military scholarships, where I believe you have to serve a minimum number of years, and in return, get a free undergrad education.

That being said, I'm trying to figure out what this has to do with healthcare. Going to look it up.

[SadisticNature]

Why is it wrong to have upfront conditions for financial aid? You don't seem to have a problem with various other things with upfront conditions?

If you want to study some useless field that does nothing towards getting you a job and becoming a contributing, productive member of society why should the government help pay for your education?

The government giving financial aid for in demand fields to ensure people become productive members of society and generate tax revenues that help pay for these programs down the road.

This is not: We are going to give you a loan then at some future date tell you what to do with it. This is we are going to give you a loan conditional on X,Y and Z and tell you what X,Y and Z are up front. If you don't like it don't take the loan.

The difference is that the only source of monies you will have in the future is the Government and they are, essentially, going to tell you what course of study you must pursue. This is no way comparable to the Military scholarship, which requires input from the member. When you leave service you choose your course of study. To be comparable it would be like the Army telling a soldier he has to use his funds to study metalurgy and take a job at Oshkosh after he leaves the service.