Humilation Debate

[Dragon's muse]

With name calling, call me a slut, a dirty cunt, while playing and i'm fine. Call me those any other times and you'll have to find your balls. Good girl works all the time. But with me, call me just "girl" and i can't stand it. "girl" is too demeaning.

Different people have different triggers. Dragon often addresses me as "girl" and it doesn't bother me (if someone else tried it, i am not sure who would bail on them first). He can rag on anything physical that he likes; yes my tits are small, i have no ass to speak of, even call me ugly. (again this only goes for Dragon!) BUT, even with Dragon, if you call me dumb, or stupid or anything else that degrades my intelligence, . . . . things get ugly, quickly.

[~hellish one~]

Different people have different triggers. Dragon often addresses me as "girl" and it doesn't bother me (if someone else tried it, i am not sure who would bail on them first). He can rag on anything physical that he likes; yes my tits are small, i have no ass to speak of, even call me ugly. (again this only goes for Dragon!) BUT, even with Dragon, if you call me dumb, or stupid or anything else that degrades my intelligence, . . . . things get ugly, quickly.

i agree! "girl" doesn't bother me one bit. it actually makes me smile when he calls me that. but, that's just me. like you and sheepish said, what works for one, doesn't always work for another...what humiliates or embarasses me, won't necessarily cause the next person to even blink twice. humiliation is something i have explored very little of. i like to think i am open enough to explore it more, though. i can take being called all kinds of names, but the whole dumb and stupid thing just wouldn't work for me either!! not to say that verbal humiliation is the only type of humiliation out there! ~wink~

[Echoes]

for I was told as a part of meditation during training that to speak out against any Dominant is extremely wrong - period. To accept everything, for it is his joy and his peace that is paramount and understanding does not come into this but understanding comes from experience...as you experience and learn to accept any part of his joy, pain ect...that this completes him and that was our goal...there were to be no limits...and yes I know this is not the proper way to begin...now.
Where is the limit when it comes to talking? Speaking of experiences and what you see and disagree with, what you think is abuse?
Or perhaps it should not be said here?

*added in edit*

I wont erase what I said but summarize how I feel.
...looking at IDCrewDawg's post is so very accurate. It is based on reactions, feelings and sense of being and self esteem, how it interacts between the person humiliating and the person being humiliated and varying extremes. Anything that is belittling your worth through verbal abuse and ridicule should really be addressed.