The Church orders Wives to Submit to their Husbands

[MMI]

"Submission is powerful, beautiful, hopeful and courageous"

Actually, I don't think he was being anti-feminist, just trying to apply 1st Century standards to 21st Century life.

How many subs here feel they grow thorugh submission and service? Which of them feels they add something worthwhile to their Dom's life?

... just asking.

If you want to hear the sermon, and regardless of the rights and wrongs of what Rev. Mark Oden says, if you want to comment further, you should, then go to http://www.stnicholas-sevenoaks.org and click on Marriage and Women

You'll need about 25 minutes to hear it all - if you can stomach it. (He sounds like Tony Blair, so that got him off to a very bad start with me!)