The Church orders Wives to Submit to their Husbands

[Thorne]

If one is a Christian, there is no law higher than God's law.

And THIS is what scares the hell out of atheists. THIS is what let's men think it's okay to drive planes into buildings. THIS is what let's self-righteous lunatics kill doctors in the guise of saving lives. THIS is what lets parents torture their children instead of giving them medicines.

Anyone who places a god's law above man's law is opening the door to hatred, intolerance and bigotry.

God's law allows you to kill your enemies, right down to the last man, woman and child, saving only the virgins for your own amusement. (Numbers 31:1-18)

God's law allows the owning of slaves. (Leviticus 25:44-46)

It is MAN'S laws which make us civilized.

[Flaming_Redhead]

Anyone who places a god's law above man's law is opening the door to hatred, intolerance and bigotry.

It is MAN'S laws which make us civilized.

Frankly, I don't see what the Quran has to do with this thread, but anyway, civilization is as subjective as the god(s) people worship and the laws they obey.

1 Peter, chapter 2 verses 13-14 say, "Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. For it is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men."

[Thorne]

Frankly, I don't see what the Quran has to do with this thread, but anyway, civilization is as subjective as the god(s) people worship and the laws they obey.

While the OP dealt with a Christian Vicar, the idea of women subordinating themselves to men runs through many other faiths. And unless you are claiming that Christianity is the only true religion, and therefore it is only the Christian God's law which must be followed, then the Quran, the Book of Mormon and any other religious text is just as valid a reference as the Bible.

[Bren122]

While the OP dealt with a Christian Vicar, the idea of women subordinating themselves to men runs through many other faiths. And unless you are claiming that Christianity is the only true religion, and therefore it is only the Christian God's law which must be followed, then the Quran, the Book of Mormon and any other religious text is just as valid a reference as the Bible.

The original OP was a discussion of a particular Biblical text; the views of other religions on the matter are irrelevant.