Quote Originally Posted by IAN 2411 View Post
Good call by the Judge, but the surprising thing is the previous of the man, for the life of me I just cannot understand how the police let this filth get away with his crimes for so long.
Don't know that I'd blame the police. Seems at first glance they did their jobs by arresting him. It's the court, the judges, the lawyers, which set him back on the streets again.
Now this guy was a murder waiting to happen.
Obviously, his previous stints in prison did not "rehabilitate" him. Gee, THAT'S a surprise!
I am not sure how the mind of a kidnapper and rapist goes
It's quite simple, really. "You've got what I want, I deserve it, and you're no better than a piece of shit on the sole of my shoe." Fairly typical of most criminal minds.
You could go as far as to say if a person kidnaps, rapes and the victim ends up dead it is premeditated.
A pretty valid generalization, but there have been a couple of high-profile cases here in the US where the victim has turned up alive and more-or-less well.
Here in the UK this guy will end up in a soft jail getting three meals a day, television, a games room, a library, and gymnasium. He/she will more than likely get a visitor once a month that sympathises with his hardship, and probably a liberal social worker telling him the law was a bit harsh.
Yeah, this is exactly the kind of prison time I'm advocating against! Hard time should, indeed, be HARD time.
Not me personally but someone that is a very good friend of mine, and it brought home just how close we all are from the next pointless murder about to happen.
I'm sorry to hear that. You, and his/her loved ones, have my condolences. I've been fortunate in this regard. I know of no one, personally, who has suffered in this manner.
The trouble with locking them away as you said is the mental health act in the UK, and after a few months it would be played on by his/her lawyers.
I'm not sure why this would matter. If the criminal has been deemed sane enough to stand trial, he's sane enough to pay for his crime. If he's been locked up for life, what difference does his mental health have? Just another one of those human rights he's given up by not being human.
Sorry that’s a no, no, read above because in the UK it is a good get out clause.
I think I'd have to stand pat on this one. Perhaps the laws might need to be changed, but there are some who are truly mentally ill when they commit their crimes. And some of them could be treated to have that mental illness controlled. You can justify institutionalizing someone who is ill, either physically or mentally, but I don't see how you can justify withholding treatment for that illness, or for maintaining him in an institution once his illness has been cured, or at least controlled. Yes, the restrictions on this issue would need to be tightened down, a lot, but the attempt at healing such a person should be made.
No privileges as that comes under human rights, his/her victim had their privileges taken away the moment they died, the main one being the privilege of life.
Yes, I realize that. Still, allowing limited privileges for specific behavior, such as attending rehabilitation courses, undergoing treatments, even just for good behavior, shouldn't be cast aside so easily. For one thing, the promise of gaining some privileges can greatly reduce problems within the prison. The threat of then losing those privileges can help keep the criminal on the straight and narrow. Except in the cases of the most hard-core, incorrigible criminals I can't see unilaterally withholding at least the possibility of earning privileges. And those kinds of criminals are the ones who should be at the top of the list for the death penalty anyway.
Yes, I will agree you hit the nail on the head there.
You needn't act so surprised!